Revealing nothing. My biggest problem with Henriette/Louis is that I find it highly doubtful that Louis would have sex with her. Hi Laura! The midwife and doctor were horrified but there was nothing she could do!!! I risked my life for your vanity, to rescue your wifes dowry. Louis: I acted for France because I AM FRANCE! Philippe remains stoic this time its Louis getting angry and we know why. See above comments about Henriettes powerlessness as a woman. Really enjoyed reading your reviews, which I found halfway the show. Louis reels off a list of people who were with Henriette on her journey, people that must be interrogated. Like only a brother can. Philippelooks into the fire, whispers, I was so proud of you. She coudnt have said no if shed wanted to. Lets just say, Henriettes jealous behaviour is a far cry less despicable than Philippes.). It is a controlled grief. needless to say, all my writing is copyright to me, so don't be a dick and steal it.
A goodbye to 'Versailles,' TV's best show you probably never watched I especially like the pairing of her and Marchal. She finally asks. His face may be handsome but now he just reminds me of a ferret. Should Claudine be villified for showing up her father? IDK??? Its really sad, she could have been a great queen with Louis (he might not be faithful to her, but they will have live better than now), but the turns of fate, made her his brothers wife instead. Of course, nothing happened and the doctors said colic but nine hours later, she was dead. Such emotion. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. By this point, Louis had basically forgotten about and gotten over Henriette though this was much to her displeasure and chagrin. How accurate is Netflix Versailles? We now see Philippe, so resigned, with tears down his cheeks, then Louis with a no, this is NOT happening. look on his face, eyes still dry. Ridicule. Philippe is no more vulnerable to the hurt and damage done to him than she is to the hurt and damage done to her, simply because he is a man with rights and she is a woman with no rights. But, this is my interpretation or thoughts based on the real life events. Women are still being raped today in societies which condone such behaviour towards women and which deny women their personhood. It is featured in several shots when Louis & Philippe are arguing and she reveals shes preggers as well as when Louis comes to confront her about not wishing to live with the doubt about the child. In every possible way. .. now, I am not saying that Colbert is implying Philippe poisoned his wife, but it sure sounds like it. Guilt often manifests itself in an outward show of rage. *Another side-note: When the Chavelier mentions that Louis does not look for beauty so much as character, umwas he talking about Henriette? Claudine confirms: We have no choice. But enough with this. I do think it is out-of-character for the Philippe we know and love on the show, not just historically inaccurate, to force himself on her. He cares for her, but anytime he has to choose between Chevalier and her, he always choose the former. Not so much. but it is later, after they already speak with the guards in the background. Well, my thought is Philippe angrily claiming his conjugal rights may well have happened before. (*cries*), Bontemps goes to see Louis. And just like that, the light dims in his eyes, his face twists and his zealotry is gone. Anything Henriette had done to Philippe, he had done to herand worse. Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England. Ive said this before in comments. Plus he told Louis he didnt recognise the sender of the notes which is technically true. Yes, it was the thinking of that time but wouldnt that make her a victim of circumstances, rather to be pitied than villified? You clever, clever bastard. Having spent the first episode ripping their kit off at any opportunity, the court of Versailles has taken an oath of chastity. There is no change. But I said lets make it our fort. For once in your life you played along. Louis. Once again, Louis behaviour, as reported here, is uncharacteristic. For one thing, Anne of Austria, Henriette and the Comtesse de Scissons and even Louis XIV partly himself were in real life all part of a plan to distract the court and other gossip mongers from spreading further lies, gossip, rumors and to provide a cover up for Louis and Henriettes affair which was more of a fling than an actual full fledged affair. Philippe of course blames Louis for Henriette's poisoning as he was the one who sent Henriette as an ambassador abroad even though everyone begged him not to. I think Philippe will always blame Louis for Henriette's death, and I can't see when they'll ever be reconciled again. And she is the only one who knew who prepared Henriettes chicory water. I wonder what theyve got in store for us. Music. Looking forward to Season 2!!
Versailles (TV Series 2015-2018) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb The Chevalier is still silent, still focused on Henriette. The two are not mutally exclusive. The camera pans around him and yet still, not one muscle is out of place, not one twitch of emotion. You said everything that should have been pointed out a long time ago, with counterpoints and parallels that shone a light on some arguments and favoritism that , within the context of the show not history, were just mind boggling. Your email address will not be published. Louvois has been a kind of double agent all along, directed by Louis himself to assume the role of critic and conspirator. poison, death and departures Versailles episode 10. They could be far away from the victim at the time of death, so it would be difficult to definitively pin on anyone. Back outside, to a view of Versailles under construction (I love these pre-glory shots!) ), Back to Louis outside his bed chamber, where Henriettes screams of pain can be heard. But I also know that their greatest plan has yet to show itself. the camera pans to Louis, Colbert, Louvois (clearly worried, as he should be), who says, but what if shes merely ill? Marchal: then your appetite will be merely inconvenienced, Louvois. Bontemps appears. "Versailles" and I met by chance on Netflix. She is powerless. Montcourt 10 episodes, 2015 Gilly Gilchrist .
Versailles Altadefinizione Stagione 3 Episodio 10 Streaming Ita So thats why I believe that the most that Louis felt for Henriette was that he only loved her a little or to some degree but not enough. Louis is greeted by Bontemps in his chambers, who enquires about Henriettes health. Does all this excuse Philippe raping Henriette? I just found out your site and I must congratulate you for your beautifully written reviews.
Henriette and Philippe | Versailles Wiki | Fandom I respect the fact that two people can look at the same thing and see it from completely different angles and come away with completely different interpretations. Fashion. I also cannot figure out why Louis and others speak freely in front of the guards when even they are unsure of their loyalty. Louis drops the poker, approaches Montcourt. Louis is a shit to Philippe. Heres a thought: what is your view to Claudine? He rapes his wife. Then Ep 8 miscarriage scene the painting is no longer on table. Trusting Philippe and involving him in the running of France would make him a better, stronger king. Who seeks to harm Henriette? This doesnt do good for her position, unloved by her husband and no one would stand at her side, should French and English go to war. Gladly. Louis is disbelieving: And sacrifice your future to see me suffer? Philippe glances around the salon then says: What does a King know of sacrifice?, Louis cant believe it. elisabetta, oopsI should say figure, not charactersorry, english is not my first language . Hold onto this moment, I told you. What about the angels? he asks, after Montcourt nervously says hes been praying for Henriette. We see his offer to help refused time and time again. And poor Philippe, who is distraught about his wife, its just another snub for him, isnt it? Is he justified in his behaviour towards her? And laudanum as a sedative was much used at the time. We now see Philippe asleep. After all, everything she did was unacceptable at that time for women and it was certainly acceptable to beat a woman, especially if she was a wife, sister or daughter. His belief was shared by Elizabeth-Charlotte, Philippes second wife, who named the culprits as Lorraine and the Marquis dEffiat, an equerry, who had acted without Philippes knowledge. It is Louis who victimises Philippe and he does it in every way he can think of. Spooks), it was no surprise when this drama arrived with a hearty dollop of sex, violence, tension, and intrigue. Whew! UGH. Anne, Hi Jules Her mother (a french princess) is dead, and shes alone, probably the only English in the palace. In Ep 3, I believe this is the first time we see the painting, it is in Louiss chambers, to the left of the fireplace on an easel on the floor. OMG he hits Marchal across the face with the candlestick, Louis lunges, Montcourt throws him off and the King smacks his head on a table. Philippe is jealous. Her cheeriness disguised the fact that she was unwell. The camera hovers over the prone Henriette then pans up from the bed, like we are her soul being released from her body. Such emotion. Louis: you are grieving. Philippe shakes his head: I grieve alone. Louis swallows then says: You will marry again. Philippe interjects: I simply want to live. Louis: It is your duty. Philippe hisses: I have had my fill of duty. Point 3: Good question, which is the greater sin? As her husband, Philippe, rushed to her bedside, Henriette chided him, Alas, Monsieur, it is a long time since you loved me, but this is unjust. Alerted, Henriettes lady-in-waiting watched the duke closely, but he showed no indication of guilt and every sign that he was distressed by his wifes condition. There are times when I will shout (in my head), Just leave this place and run back to England.. They grew up knowing what their duty was as prince and princess. Much kudos to Nomie Schmidt for a brilliantly sad scene, aided by the backing music and the strength and emotion of George Blagden and Alex Vlahos. oh sorry, wrong show). At least thats always been his excuse. (aaaand check out the looks on Louis and Bontemps faces as I randomly paused right here. Youre brought up, its your duty. Marchal commands to clear the room, Louis adds: Not you, Montcourt. and the doors are sealed: no one enters. See production, box office & company info.
Versailles - Louis/Philippe/Henriette - Her Last Ball - YouTube Ita all so quick, and beautifully choreographed. Is anyone else hoping Fabien takes her under his wing? And who can blame her? He had mistresses, for example. We will never know if Louis and Henriette ever did consummate their attraction, but the gossip of the time most definitely swayed in that direction. (We wont even go into whether or not that maid wanted to be drug into the bedroom by Philippe after his jealous strop with the Chevalier or his sneaking into Louises bed. Kill him, then me, and blame it on him. Louis turns in slow-mo, the expression on his face revealing nothing. Im thinking no. many things. Louis looks at him as he goes on: I believe this palace is a symbol of our king. And I do not regret it for an instant. Like he is trying to justify himself. Colbert looks a bit stunned. Toodles. This girl is familiar she was at Henriettes bedside as the princess related the story of her first masked ball to Sophie. You! He points and accusing finger. She could not affect change herself. The fact that she could feel anything at all for him (beyond disgust) by the end surprises me. I couldnt honestly say. It was total and raw and real and I wept long and bitter tears for him. Not long to go now, and we are with Marchal, who lies in bed, wakes suddenly and touches his stomach wound, which bleeds through the bandage. She gasps and the priest enters silently. Everyone shares a look because, yeah, they know. Id be happy with either, tbh! If you have to, just close your eyes and think of France. Henriette was more than happy to become second only to Marie-Therese. However, Madeleine de Foix, Gaston's mother, defends her son at the salon, but when facing banishment, she stabs Fabien, almost killing him. But she is human and she can feel jealousy and make inappropriate remarks at inappropriate moments. I realise that you are not a fan of the historical figure but I am speaking strictly of the character. At least there is a modicum of decorum. Henriette gasps, crying and in pain. First to Henriette, and after she was poisoned, to Elizabeth Charlotte, Princess of the Palatinate. When we are the kings enemy, we must make him believe we are his friend. Thank you for the recaps, I am with you on all things you write about Monsieur Marchal, he is everything! We see Henriette asleep in the bed. We must get the king and the queen and yourself to safety at once. And the penny drops for Bontemps, his look of dismay so clear. However, the court (and her brother, Charles II) was told she died of natural causes so he could hardly behead anyone for murder after that. The writers of the show took quite creative liberty with the relationships some turned out to be clever and well-written, some I just eye rolled SO HARD. It was just how it was. . The historical notes you added were my favourite of all, I love knowing whats accurately portrayed and for the parts that were tweaked, what the actual history was. Right away, I am feeling negative towards them both, and yes, judgey about Henriette. We now join Rohan with the Dauphin, riding out with the Kings Guard. Absolutely enjoyed your recap of the finale. the first time we see Henriette is with Louis, and Louis mentions her husband. But I still dont get why he doesnt just dob them both in.? Henriette says to Philippe: Im sorry. He should be he has not given up either of their names for the part they played in his arrest. Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England. and Nine. One witness observed that Henriette looked like a dressed corpse upon whom someone had put some rouge, while others thought she had death painted on her face. Lot of time on my hands at the momentLULZ. A begrudging father/daughter mentor role, and she eventually warms him up a bit? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Now that *would* be naive. As she made her last confession, the English ambassador, Lord Montagu, asked Henriette if she believed she had been poisoned. NOT AT ALL acceptable in the eyes of pretty much everyone. Because Sophie steals any scene shes in with Henriette, hands down, and she even maintains a presence with Montespan, too, though Montespan is clearly the dominant one in most dynamics (the Chevalier excluded, of course swans fat flippers come to mind!) Now this is fascinating. I thought so but no. Nup. Point 4: This point actually supports my own. It could possibly be the same spot from Ep1, when he confronted the wolf and Philippe rode in to rescue him. Versailles 2015 - S01E10 - Bring the Garden Here (High MP4) (WEBM) (Aired: 14 Dec. 2015) Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England. Henriette says to Philippe: Im sorry. What shall I do! I blame it all on Louis! Is it a bigger crime than boy love? (yeah, I know I said I liked Marchal/Claudine, too! Okay, is Louvois just being a dick? Just airing in the U.S. and Im having surgery Friday so I dont know if Ill catch it. I am sobbing. And even if not, we see what Philippe is capable of when hes in a jealous snit. (Historical note: this happened and wasnt at all odd) The door suddenly opens, the Queenis standing there. Admittedly, its in the middle of a shag, when she is distracted, but still. Louis staggers to his feet, Montcourt bleeding out on the floor, and he goes to Marchal, who has collapsed near the fireplace. Philippe has no interest in Henriette, is not attracted to her or in love with her. Claudine Masson Fabien Marchal Henriette of England Henriette and Montespan Fabien and Sophie Isabella Braganza Claudine and Fabien Marie-Thrse and Montespan Versailles (series) Sophie de Clermont Philippe of France Henriette and Louis Philippe and Liselotte's Wedding Chevalier and Henriette Categories Versailles (TV Series 2015-2018) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. Ive found some interesting, unedited sources about him and I hope to write very soon a book to make some justice to this very, very mistreated character. I enjoyed them very much, I must saymuch more than this series, which is good entertainement, but, God, so FAR from being historically correct, in so many ways. What to expect from the future? Yet even on her deathbed, she reaches for Louiss hand first. What a total prick ). even if it turned out his brother was the poisoner. But Montespan kind of brushes it off with, Yes, I would do the same. She is hurt, nonetheless. As for Philippe, I cant make out what he is. (its only 16mins and 50 seconds in not that I was counting *innocent whistle*) Filmed in the Chteau de Maisons in Maisons-Lafitte, in the Salon dHercule, he strides past Montcourt, demands to know what he is doing. P.S. But your first strike would have to be true. Henriette is Philippes wife, his property, his to do with as he wishes. Glad to see he lives on, at least for awhile. A brief scene follows, showing Rohan and the Dauphin sword playing and pretending a jolly game of war in the forest, thenwe are back to the Kings bedchamber where Henriette sleeps and Philippe is outside in the antechamber, brooding by the fireplace as Louis walks in. Even Louis at this stage is getting sick of it and announces he is going to war. Suffering from digestive problems, she lived on a diet consisting primarily of milk. Good idea, he says breathlessly. But lets compare: Henriette is jealous. THIS. Philippe raping his wife. Brilliant writing. Inside Versailles Henriette Sister of King Charles II of England, Henriette - known as Madame - is the wife of Philippe and the mistress of King Louis. Even if I ignore the historical figures behind the show and what I know of their real lives, I cant ignore the historical setting or the social arena in which the show is played.
Henrietta of England and Her Tragic Life of Calamities and Heartbreak But gossip is gossip and it was particularly rife and vicious in those days. Philippe was the one in strident dissent! Even the bouncing hair. THIS. Is there anything more beautiful than the scent of blossom in the air? Henriette gets out softly. Nice one, Montcourt. Rohan slits the other guards throat, watches from a distance as the young prince has a sack put over his head then bundled off. A side-note: On Sophie. Off they stride with purpose and a couple of guards, through the gorgeous corridors (shot in the gorgeous Vaux Le Vicomte) and with ominous background music to set the mood. He certainly is darker, more angry and violent than he was in real life. So, he loves Henrietta as a friend, or simply to rival his brother? *That should have read historical figures not historical characters! There are only two men in this court who move freely between the outside world and the Kings inner circle, but only one who has never raised a single voice against him. Bontemps is surprised: the Kings brother? NO, BONTEMPS.