why didn't steve downs get custody why didn't steve downs get custody

Did she act like a average person? The Halo TV show stars Orange is the New Black's Pablo Schreiber as Master Chief, with Californication's Natascha McElhone as Dr. Halsey. And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. Her flat affect is even more pronounced now and it did her in at the time, but she was lucid enough to clearly see that Rule and the media used Becky for their personal gain. She is currently in prison, serving her life sentence for the murder of one of her kids and attempted murder for the other two. It was also said at trial that the shooter would have been left handed, which was not the case for Diane. I guess he did not want too many people to know about the improprieties that happened in his courtroom: I guess? She was found guilty. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular: this blog is clearly one sided. Isnt is odd how something we are exposed to as children can stick in our memory? Like I said, the 2 years make it a bit more of a gray area. Otherwise you just want people to fill your echo chamber that agree with you, tell anyone else you obviously dont want to debate me.., then ban, then hope for people to agree. it also isnt right that the rules get to keep being changed after the fact as far as how often one may apply for parole. Wow does he ever look different than how they portrayed him in the TV movie. ..a little over year before the shooting had a surrogate babypregnancy and giving the baby awayumits donnoits the gal already had a fragile mentality.may not have been the best idea. I like to believe the best about people too but there are certain things that absolutely cant be ignored. I am just curious. Some cases are so one sided that you feel like exposing or at least, discussing the other side. The GSR? After completing high school, Steve Downs went to join the Navy while Elizabeth Diane attended the Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College. Either way, it appears to be a conflict of interest. ..it is quite possible if she was tried in todays world, with the evidence they hadquite possible it would of went differentlywe been living in a society that pretty much demand 100% pure forensic evidence provenprobably over 10 years or longer, people expect trials to be that of a law and order TV show..I cant say thats a bad thing, or makes what happened in the 80s on back bad. She never hurt anyone in the process of escaping. Her older two children have remained out of the public eye. Whats wrong with the system is whats wrong with us. Jen Taylor . Or that they are not even curious about it. I do not declare her innocent. For all you readers of this blogger, I lived through the Diane Downs case. She did it. She is nowhere near being paroled and if she admitted guilt, I am not even convinced they would release her. I encourage you to read all the facts before being so sure that she was guilty or that she acted alone. I saw footage of Diane herself laughing during the re-enactment of the crime. They claimed to have found two lead cartridges in Dianes rifle at home that supposedly matched the ones used during the crime. Foote then handled the juvenile docket and first encountered Downs when he ordered her two surviving children into state protective custody. The person who shot the kids was leaning inside the car because they were shot at close range. View theaffidavits. They checked her shoes and they were clean. Ive been to London to Fly the Queen ~ and Back to Collect Artifacts, Haleigh Cummings Was Once Lost but Now She Is Found, Meet Rene Acoby: In-House Female Dangerous Offender, Kelli Stapleton- A Mothers Wuthering Woes. Theybrought out the big guns to unload on the public, their idea of the truth: Diane Downs was a horrible creature and a jilted lover who shot her three children in cold blood to be free to pursue a relationship with the man she was obsessed with. The following article hopes to help you make more suitable choices and get more useful information I just tried to find a video or article about Hugi and I only get the one or two that I already have. According to her hospital records, every 6 hours she was given 400 milligrams of Dilantin (which is noted for causing confusion). But people never want to touch the high profile cases where the defendant is not likable. Robert and Diane even decided toget matching rose tattoos, but as soon as the ink on her tattoo was dry, he refused to get his done. My question is: why is she still locked up? But you dont mention that she again has changed her story. Except for Paul Cortez. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch? What disease did Ray Liotta have, and what caused his death? And Steven would hunt her down anyway and charm his way back into her life. Diane Downs changed her story so many times, even at her parole hearing. This was all logged in Christies hospital reports and is found in the Appendix of the petition filed in Federal Court in 1996 in the section Hospital Reports. Would you know at what speed you are going if you were shot and driving with wounded children in the car? Clickhere to read about faulty ballistics.. I was curious as to what these requirements were, as I have not seen these online. It means you dont orphan the kids. As soon as Diane was found guilty, Hugi demanded that Diane be evaluated by a psychiatrist before sentencing so they could declare her a dangerous offender and give her a stiffer sentence. It was kind of interesting to hear Mossimo Giannullis lawyer pleading to have his client sent home or put in general population because his mental health suffered drastically in solitary confinement because of covid after 56 consecutive days in solitary. She knew that Knickerbocker hated trouble of any kind, and thathe would have never come back to her after an ugly shooting where she had been wounded and her kids damaged. We dont know what the Hugi family was doing during this time, probably seeing the kids regularly and getting licensed and approved to take the kids home with them. But, their marriage was far from what either of them had expected. The US is a very strange bird when it comes to crime and punishment. I am not sure. However, when all the details came to be understood by the police, Steve found out what really happened to his kids. I am a true crime junkie. She wanted a lawyer to defend her vigorously but the judge stopped her from getting good representation. And other inmates were released with worst backgrounds. Q. While that makes her technically eligible for parole at some point (in her case 2009) it does not actually mean she has an end date or a release date. Are you still taking comments by email? Ultimately, the blogger is entitled to their opinion as is everyone else. Diane may very well be guilty, but YIKES this investigation and trial seemed so butchered and tilted in the prosecutions favour. One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. She was still trying to extricate herself from a bad relationship with Steve Downs and was in no hurry to repeat the mistake. Christie was the primary witness in the case against her mother. We make them president!!!! They never tried to reunite them with family. If there is one thing Diane knew about her lover, is that he was fickle and did not like trouble of any kind. According to Rule and the court, the unicorn was a memorial to her children that she purchased after premeditating their murder. At the very least, she should have been released by now. Wasnt he the stranger? They were in a difficult situation becausewithout evidence, they could notcharge her for the crime. The circumstances surrounding the crimes against these innocent children demand to be used as evidence.. My comment to you Lise is about your reply to a previous comment where you say Diane should have been released by now regardless of her statements. Plus, Diane could have never cleaned her clothes and her hair to remove blood and gun powder. You cannot skip due process because of mob mentality. Diane was in the hospital for a bone graft from June 2nd until June 6th, 1983. Her father passed away in October 2017 after having fought relentlessly for her release. The detective said if Diane would just testify against Steve Downs, she and her children could go home and try to put their lives back together. The children should have been receiving therapy throughout. I wish she could get a new look. I also wish that Dianes children have a great life. Everything I outlined should be public knowledge. Most people described Dianes injury as minor or superficial but in reality, it was a very serious injury. It would be about November 20th that you would have gone back with Charlene, what, the next day? Spending 35 years incarcerated with time in isolation and often as a target is not going to improve mental health. In addition to treating brain cancer, he works toward health equity. If the goal was to get rid of them, why didnt she emulate her lesser half in this matter? She is supposed to be locked up for murder, etc. As her brother mentioned, it would not be that farfetched for his sister to stop for someone considering that she was a person who lacked impulse control and the era. Lise do you know if the kids have ever reached out to the grandparents/family in the last few years? She talked to Diane for 15 minutes, there was thebizarre and partialOprah interview that was basically a lets bash Diane event and she wrote to Diane in jail to ask her what she thought of Hugi adopting her children. Unfortunately, there isn't much information about his whereabouts as he keeps a low profile. So she warns her to stay away. You make an interesting observation when you say: Anyways. Diane was 18 years old at the time and had run away from home to get married. Hugi didnt rush in and take the kids, he had time to consider. I also found it curious that when Diane was first eligible for parole she was allowed to apply every 2 years thereafter until she either gets paroled or dies in prison. He actually was the one who suggested theybecome intimate after many friendly, platonic conversations. You wondered at times, which side he was working for. What I explain in the blog is that the fact that Foote is the one who removed the children from Dianes care is exactly why he should NOT have been presiding over her murder trial. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. Not that it matters, your opinion is about the case and not subject to geography. Hardly circumstantial or coincidental what are the chances that a bushy haired stranger, masked men, or someone that knew her (take your pick from Dianes ever shifting account) would have the exact same bullets matching to bullets from a gun owned by Diane ? And when kids are hurt, emotions keep flowing endlessly. The reason she is likely locked up is because she was diagnosed with narcissistic, histrionic and anti social personality disorder, that makes her a very dangerous person (especially since she is a murderer). So glad you wrote and provided this information. Diane was pregnant during the trial so if found not guilty, how would she have regained the love of her life? The time was spent waiting for the clock to tick down the final seconds for all appeals to the parental termination to be allowed. You didnt know that?? No matter how horrible people think she is. Foote denied the motion and declared you have an attorney, use him.. But you would know that if you had read the blog or info about the case. Saying that I seem to be doing what I accuse Ann Rule of doing is kind of ironic because the point of this blog is to try to stay away from innuendo and fantasies like unicorns and songs that might have been playing or not during a tragic murder. But the Parole Board refused to hear her. Mr. Too bad she did not interview Diane or her family. What got her convicted was two things the towel and Christie. Basically then at that I worked for county government child welfare for a decade. As she walked away, Detective Welch called after her, If you dont testify against Steve, youre going to lose everything. Diane turned back to say, Show me proof, and walked away. She did it. http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf. Thats why Diane wouldnt agree to marry unless Knick first signed a premarital agreement that when they divorced, Knick would take nothing from their marriage. The most frequent remarks I hear about the case when confronted by the state misconduct and the lack of evidence are gut feelings I dont buy it Shes guilty She did it I know she did it Her story makes no sense Shes evil Shes crazy. It had to be her.. They never found the gun and she showed no signs of having fired one. The next day, on June 16, 1983, CSD terminated Dianes visitations with her children altogether. Page 10 of Case History. It seems that the Downs were totally ignored. Fred Hugi looks nothing like Jim Jagger. 2 years in foster care waiting to be legally free for adoption is not that uncommon even today. Lise,,,,, yes you did. Makes no difference to me. Mainly because the courts have to give every chance possible and all the services necessary to the bio family to try to preserve the relationship. As for how to answer this question,,, seems like he is assuming guilt and because of this my parents or me or my brothers and sister, our uncles and aunts were not considered because of an unproven allegation Does he truly believe this is ok??? I was raised by an evil narcissist and have not only seen this kind of behavior before, but I have seen the face of the devil and it is a look of pure evil that gives me the creeps. Not exclusively a USA trait, this happens also in many countries, but in a technologically advanced superpower like USA this attitude is more shocking, and maybe also more worldwide spread. It appeared rigged: Rigged? It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. That disinformation was alleged by Mr. Hugi the third day into Jim Jaggers defense and it was never objected to by Mr. Jagger . Diane had spent three days in the hospital ingesting massive doses of Morphine, Demerol, Percodan, and visterol. So move on. He still shouldnt have been allowed to adopt them while the appeals process was ongoing, if he had any role in those cases. But if you compare them, and if stranger there was, there are similarities but it is not dead on. It could be argued that he developed a relationship with the children and genuinely wanted them to join his family. There were a few calls and on one occasion, The most frequent remarks I hear about the case when confronted by the state misconduct and the lack of evidence are gut feelings , So the hell with no gun, no GSR, no blood and no witnesses except a sick child who denied knowing who shot them until she could not anymore and happened to be adopted by the prosecutor; making it look like she could never change her mind and reveal that she has no memory of the shooting and maybe have the case reversed.